Log Opened: Sun Sep 06 14:55:34 1998 ùíù sig11 [sig11@centralia-as-252.accessus.net(net)] has joined #LPC ùíù [Users(#LPC:3)] ùíù mode/#LPC [+tnl] 99 ùíù Channel #LPC was created at Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 ùíù mode/#LPC [+o sig11] by eyeball === (join\#lpc) stew[stew@145.253.72.19] @[03:21:12pm] 'lo moin ? I´ve got a small question: k It is about the time f the trainings. In the mails it is always written MDT. which timezone is MDT ? GMT -7 thx. btw: what does MDT mean? Mountain time === Attempting to resolve 145.253.72.19. === ERROR: Could not resolve 145.253.72.19. ok. My localtime is MEST (mean european summer time) gmt +1 ah well, cu some other time... I still have to reconfigure my sendmail... bye === (signoff\#LPC) stew[stew@145.253.72.19] @[03:27:23pm] [Leaving.] Log Closed: Sun Sep 06 15:44:12 1998 Log Opened: Sun Sep 06 16:57:49 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ù sig11 is gone... autoaway/10min (l/on p/on) ù sig11 is back... Log Closed: Sun Sep 06 17:59:33 1998 Log Opened: Sun Sep 06 19:32:31 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 'lo === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) === (join\#LPC) NeBulOuS[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[10:58:24pm] === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o NeBulOuS) hmmm why is it rxvt is so much slower than xterm? I type something, and sometimes it takes a while before it appears on the screen.. ù sig11 is gone... autoaway/10min (l/on p/on) 'lo neb anyone here? === (signoff\#LPC) NeBulOuS[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[11:59:07pm] [irc.ais.net irc.exodus.net] === (signoff\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] @[11:59:21pm] [irc.ais.net irc.exodus.net] === (signoff\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[11:59:31pm] [irc.ais.net irc.exodus.net] === (join\#LPC) NeBulOuS[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[12:04:20am] === (join\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[12:04:21am] === (join\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] @[12:04:21am] === (mode\#LPC) [@irc.lightning.net] sets mode (+ooo NeBulOuS LP-Twist eyeball) back 'lo neb? there? >>> (ctcp(#LPC)) (ping) (eyeball(~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com) PING reply) 3s (LP-Twist(~reas@165.91.34.141) PING reply) 4s (NeBulOuS(hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu) PING reply) 4s neb? Log Closed: Mon Sep 07 00:53:35 1998 Log Opened: Mon Sep 07 13:38:37 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 'lo heya sig sup? === (signoff\#LPC) Jitter[~lem@junior.ece.ucdavis.edu] @[02:12:35pm] [irc.lightning.net irc.exodus.net] === (signoff\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[02:12:54pm] [irc.lightning.net irc.exodus.net] === (join\#LPC) Jitter[~lem@junior.ece.ucdavis.edu] @[02:13:52pm] === (join\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[02:13:52pm] === (mode\#LPC) [@irc.exodus.net] sets mode (+oo Jitter LP-Twist) ù sig11 is gone... autoaway/10min (l/on p/on) g'afternoon ù sig11 is back... Log Closed: Mon Sep 07 15:13:29 1998 Log Opened: Mon Sep 07 16:05:03 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 Log Closed: Mon Sep 07 16:16:41 1998 Log Opened: Mon Sep 07 19:39:47 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 === (signoff\#LPC) stew[stew@ttyC00.goslar.netsurf.de] @[08:23:00pm] [Ping timeout] *** Disconnected from irc.mcs.net Log Opened: Mon Sep 07 21:10:20 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 *** Disconnected from irc.mcs.net Log Closed: Mon Sep 07 22:05:57 1998 Log Opened: Mon Sep 07 22:06:58 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o Ciecel) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 === (signoff\#LPC) sig11[sig11@centralia-as-196.accessus.net] @[10:12:49pm] [Ping timeout] === (nick\change) Ciecel ÄÄ> sig11 Log Closed: Mon Sep 07 22:26:33 1998 Log Opened: Tue Sep 08 16:16:02 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 === (part\#LPC) stew[stew@ttyC06.goslar.netsurf.de] @[04:16:14pm] === (join\#lpc) stew[stew@ttyC06.goslar.netsurf.de] @[04:16:21pm] 'lo hi! sup?' === (join\#LPC) NeBulOuS[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[04:17:37pm] === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o NeBulOuS) 'lo nebby 'lo hmm... anyone konw of a way to make enscript widen the left margin? its printing like... right on the edge of the page finally some action here... what do they say in #LinuxOS? ;) hmm, didn't get re-op'd? another program perhaps? :P well, I write it in wp just cuz its ez, but.. hmm maybe I should just learn staroffice (and buy some more ram heh) I tried to kick myself (dump i know, but i had to try it ) I´ll try to rejoin.... === (part\#LPC) stew[stew@ttyC06.goslar.netsurf.de] @[04:20:16pm] so, nobody knows... does anyone on this planet know? what were the enscript/nenscript programmers thinking?? :) heh === (join\#lpc) stew[stew@ttyC06.goslar.netsurf.de] @[04:21:05pm] WP is great looks like your +o flag got changed when you kicked yourself.. not as far as printing goes :P === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o stew) it takes out the ' and "... among other things Q: Why are Unix emulators like your right hand? just doesn't print 'em? A: They're just pussy substitutes! There it is again.. no.. and the printing is never centered unless I print from a program taht knows how to generate postscript, like netscape you guys ever have that problem...? don't use wp in linux I can't get postscript to work I still try to connect my pringter .) text only covers like 2/3 of the page, I don't know what's up with that cuts it off at 60 something characters anyway, it just looks bad :P sig11: you mean ghostscript? real pain.. meant to say postscript printing but that meant ghostscript ;) helloooo mojo? well, I suppose I COULD reboot to win95 and print, but... ahh I hope my teachers won't fail me if my homework is all in plain text, stuck over on the left side of the page :) heh wow Ezu's back! if you're pressed for time, I wouldn't blame you for rebooting screw it, I'm just going to leave it how it is :) heh, I just hope I don't screw up and start writing c instead of c++ heh, they stopped teaching c this year :( heh, heh he WHY??! <-- tired :( do you use a unix? not anymore the department has gone and started encouraging ppl to use msvc++... bastards those bastards well, thank goodness for ansi... _-ViSoR-_ is learning on VAX it was sick... after class I saw this one guy walk up and say if it was okay if he only bought the learning, personal, or whatever version it is called instead of professional heh, like borland and ms are the only c++ programming environments if they had a clue, they would just tell the students any one is fine, perhaps even directing them to a free one?? heheh ah, that would make too much sense no that's too easy last time I checked, only the college of business sold their soul to ms yawn Aparently Gates is worried that Microsoft will lose its monopoly throught appliance like devices so is commiting to providing a version of windoze for every appliance that needs one :). Yes, now your toaster can also have the blue screeen of death. http://academicoop.isu.edu/ didn"nobody ever got fired for chosing M$" can you get in there? wb Ezu, where ya been? who me? didn´t you know? servers where giveing me errors when i would try to logon anyone... whatever I click on, it just sends me back to the main page I know a guy that got fired for helping someone get on the net in Linux he's an ISP tech support guy Hey, I should forward an forwarded article from Douglas Adams about Win95... Anyone interested? yesh ;) (watchy(~watchy@max1-14.cmd.cei.net) PING) to #windowmaker maybe it got ticked off because I turned cookies off prolly neb shit ok. just a minute... have to find it again... i got fired from my isp just cause i was "unprofesanal" I need somthing to disable all these damned winshit shortcuts Mojo: what did you do? nothing i dressed how they wanted i did what they wanted and more and they said that ehe but they have a rep for fireing people for no reason cookies suck :P why neb? I like lynx's treatment of cookies, nothing across sessions its like a tv that informs the station what you watch so they can send more commercials directed at you !!! http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/daily/980908c.html hmm wtf is there? neb turn 'em on and do: ln -s /dev/null ~/.netscape/cookies cookies, blink, just a couple of html extensions that netscape probably shouldn't have added :) no one uses blink anymore cookies help admins oh boy! if I buy 50 machines a quarter I can get linux! :) argh, blink heh, and advertisers never seen a cookie used by ads well, pr0n they help everyone but customers... well, except for the shopping basket sort of thing, but that can be done with cgi oh well "Since early this year, we've gotten so, sites can't complain if they dont get a cookie requested from you, only if you don't except theirs? :) about two calls per week asking us about Linux." yeah, but they're still making it hard to get linux, thus not harming their relationship with m$ maybe I'll just add a wafer, like "cookiessuckyouretards" heh I'll have to check that faq again... I have a www site to send yo u "I'm not surprised that they are supplying Linux in limited amounts, because they don't want to lose those accounts," just trying to placate linux users sig11: I mailed the article to you cool! ;) ahhh! I lost the location bar in netscape! heh ù sig11 digs for the link for neb try the "view" menu ? oh, yeah :) or click on the little tab at the left aha... aspsessionid me will you?? try to hit that tab in a high resolution.. I think they're tracking my mouse clicks who? THEY? http://academicoop.isu.edu/ that is such bs... i don't see why any university would get sucked into that use linux or freebsd if unix is too expensive, sheesh =) whats it say? === (signoff\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[04:59:45pm] [irc.exodus.net irc2.exodus.net] Has anyone experience with SMBCLIENT and other Linux->windoze connections? there we go... http://academicoop.isu.edu/College/Curriculum/Database/searchinstitution.asp ASP? What is an asp file? wehw its a html clone that seems to be preferred by microsofties *shrug* I hate it when they stick all those little R's everywhere microsoft is as paranoid about intellectual property as it is possible I think just a list of software used in this one course like Microsoft(R) Windows NT (R) Workstation gee, I thought ibm made windows nt, heh... === (join\#LPC) LP-Twist[~reas@165.91.34.141] @[05:04:57pm] === (mode\#LPC) [@irc2.exodus.net] sets mode (+o LP-Twist) The best thing I know are the MS-Agents. ? Those little "helpers" for your webpage or application ummm... I'm boycotting microsoft so... :) They are little animated characters like a magician or a robot and "interact" with the user to help him by pointing / moving around on the screen heh... they give the agents away for free, but you have to buy the book how to program them from (guess....) microsoft press ù Mojo dance around... i got HHGTTG!! yaa! and... you can't use them to bash microsoft correct? :) I got the guide on my palmpilot... :) neat. that stands on the bottom of the licence agreement.. But anyhow: they look quite cute. Nice if you want to guide 1st time users through your program. The little guide floats around the screen, makes a bow, points on a button and says "click here" ù sig11 is gone... autoaway/10min (l/on p/on) actually d DEC did most of early NT hmmm, that sounds like the type of thing seul needs... ù stew pings stew to death kewl.. die personal toolbar, die! heh Sorry, you must be using one of the following browsers to view this Web site: * Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.02 with Authenticode Update ("Update a") * Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 or above * Netscape Navigator 3.0 or above * Any browser fully compatible with the above We highly recommend enabling JavaScript. wasn't perl enough? what do we need javascript and vbscript for anyway? WE don´t need them. But Webdesigners need them to crash your browser! yeah... microsoft has gone past the cutting edge... just look at this You and your students can now get the power of the Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 4.0 operating system – FREE. We’re offering a... you could just write '? :) or -- :) I dunno... is it just me or does anyone else feel microsoft is influencing ppl to use high-tech web pages, thus effectively shutting down the anybrowser.org campaign...? perl rocks anyway ù sig11 slaps nebuloud hehe =) swear to god, its a great way to expand their monopoly Does anybody want to play a little bit quake? as is teaching college and hs kids to use ms products please well. Educating tomorrows buyers. and employees, and employers... rather scary isn't it its just crass, evil commercialism ù NeBulOuS chuckles I´ll mail you the article i just got. have you heard of the "MS Certified" fiasco? from D.Adams about win95. a bit older, but still actual fiasco? says that you passed their exam of competency using their products or something send it to me too stew, sar@tamu.edu yeah, I've heard of it... Nope, althoug my employer is an "MS certified...uh...vendor?" ù Mojo is idle, gone [crk(l/on p/off)] heh, its such a crock... that's what resumes are for, heh to me, it doesn't mean you know anything, it just means you passed a test I'm A+ certified, couldn't care less oh.. oh... d adams, not s. adams :) what do they ask in the test? "How do you hide the start button?" <-- using a dilbert mouse pad at the moment haha good question whatever they're told to ask I guess :) set the focus to the button and press ALT <-> (i guess, i have to verify that again) then you get a popupmenu and can move and close the button "What is the registry used for?" try exporting your registry and send it to someone via mail. when he klicks on the .reg-file his registry is overwritten. (the "good times" virus starts getting real) :) so what would be the equivalent of the registry in linux? uh.... say /etc? :) the /etc directory and any config file but they don't get overwritten just by clicking on a .reg file... :) that's a really awful default action for .reg files if you ask me yep have you ever programmed in MSVC++ ? I haven't I have to. At work we start programming our old (DOS-) program for Windows. VC is great for developing GUI´s. Some drag&drop and you got your dialog box. click on "new project" and you have a template for your programm that does all the necessary things to start up a window, prepare memory etc... the layers of abstraction are beginning to pile on yep. Wonder if that´s good or not... Have you seen Visual Basic? That´s programming Windoze for dummies haven't actually seen it in use I don't think but heard a little about it Well. It´s a lot of drag&drop, rightclick for options... nice article that talks about that... Most of it is preprogrammed. You just have to arrange the bits of GUI and make some little code for certain events (clicks) hello all heya Jitter awakes... :) hehe Twist, did you ever get gl working? YES!! :)))) I think Neb helped me finally you guys try svgalib 1.3 yet? I just ordered my 3DFX Card today. Should be delivered the next few days. seems like qw and q2 run about the same speed great! you'll never play software mode again! Hope It still fits somewhere between SCSI-Controller and Network-Card exactly I hope I can finally play Unreal.. :) the mouse control is all screwed up in svga lib 1.3 unreal sucks Have you alreade seen SiN ? played it for a day and never played it again unreal for linux is out? no, played it in winshit95 any other games I should know about? ah I don´t know if it sucks. I only saw screenshots on my machine (while playing it) WIn95 is only for gaming on my system! too damn slow heh heh shit, i dont touch windoze at all any more Hey, I admit I run it but only for games I only do if something stops working or I'm really bored and want to play something other than Quake they don't make good kids games for my 3 year old unless you run winshit BTW: have you seen TTYQuake? yeah! crazy... I saw a screenshot, but haven't tried playing it http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ttyquake-0.3.tar.gz too twisted for me I think I need a new glibc for it. It only starts and then makes a segfault upgrade to Debian 2.0 ttyquake?! === (signoff\#LPC) NeBulOuS[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[05:45:50pm] [ircd-w.concentric.net irc.cs.cmu.edu] Quake in Textmode! hey stew, have you been playing QW with detrius? yep. But not for long. good, at least there is some hope of keeping the Euro stuff going tlak to Deeper at all? talk long time ago. I mailed him today if we will do ANY training over here. Still waiting for response. I think he's been busy practicing with the crusaders That clan kicks ass!!! What if our clan ever battles them? %-) never... Deeper is one of us Yeahh.... just got TTYQuake running! hehe... you are truly twisted for trying to play that I´ve got an old 286 notebook here connected via serial link as a terminal. So i can read my email without getting out of bed. Now i can even play quake. :-> AARG. I think next time I´ll get out of bed for quake... what about a little DM ? === (join\#LPC) Darxus[ocvziuer@d-phletc1-2b.ppp.op.net] @[05:54:48pm] Hi! === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o Darxus) === (join\#lpc) icatic[icatic@ick.rsn.hk-r.se] @[05:55:56pm] === (part\#lpc) icatic[icatic@ick.rsn.hk-r.se] @[05:56:08pm] === (signoff\#LPC) Mojo[mojo@LostSoulz.org] @[05:57:17pm] [irc.best.net *.blackened.com] === (signoff\#LPC) Jitter[~lem@junior.ece.ucdavis.edu] @[05:57:25pm] [irc.best.net *.blackened.com] how did you get it going, stew? have to install anything else? No. I just changed the library path in the ttyquake-file to *my* /usr/lib Can anyone please ping 194.162.54.54:27500 ? I´m just curious what ping YOU get. around 900 ms qtrack shows 220 867.7/909.8/961.4 ms where does the qtrack server stand? california just a minute: does qtrack show MY ping or HIS ping? jitter's machine qtrack pings everything then reports his ping then he has a great transatlantic connection! === (join\#lpc) Jitter[~lem@junior.ece.ucdavis.edu] @[06:06:02pm] === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o Jitter) ./ttyquake: line 27: 4678 Segmentation fault ./squake -nostdout -nosound $* Got the Path right? Got the libs? do I need to get aavga and aalib? hmm, dselect time I guess I think that´s what is in the quake/tty dir. ahh, so it is dselect? what is this? === (join\#lpc) FuRrY[~FuRrY@cs4-10.eph.ptd.net] @[06:14:15pm] === (part\#lpc) FuRrY[~FuRrY@cs4-10.eph.ptd.net] @[06:14:19pm] debian tool what libs does it need? libvga.so? I don´t know.... libvga.so.1 is in the tty-dir. I´ll have a look at my /usr/lib just a guess: do you have libcurses or libncurses? /usr/lib/libcurses.a /usr/lib/libcurses.so /usr/lib/libncurses.a /usr/lib/libncurses.so I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./tty:/usr/lib me too Log Closed: Tue Sep 08 18:28:31 1998 Log Opened: Tue Sep 08 19:46:29 1998 ::: Now talking in #LPC... ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) Lethal Penguins - A GNU Quake Clan - http://junior.ece.ucdavis.edu/~lpc ::: ((#LPC)) (topic: ) set by Jitter on Mon Sep 07 12:25:57 1998 === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o sig11) ::: ((#LPC)) (modes: ) +tnl 99 ::: ((#LPC)) (created:) Tue Sep 01 02:44:23 1998 === (signoff\#LPC) Darxus[ocvziuer@d-phletc1-2b.ppp.op.net] @[08:57:49pm] [Ping timeout] ù sig11 is gone... trying Falcon 4 (l/on p/on) === (join\#LPC) NeBulOuS_[hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu] @[09:30:42pm] === (mode\#LPC) eyeball[~eyeball@starcastle.idle.com] sets mode (+o NeBulOuS_) ù sig11 is back... hmm hmm Floating point exception... just what is that anyway huh? ù NeBulOuS_ is thoroughly humiliated ?? trying to come up with a basic basic program to plug some numbers into a formula, and it don't work c++... hhe ask jasonr about that maybe if I multiply by the reciprocal hehe get a calculator neb ;) I did... and I get a totally different answer on a couple of them gah test.C:12: invalid operands `float' and `int' to binary `operator ^' heh whats ya got? z=a * b + 2 * c - (((4 * d) / a) * ((5 * c ^ 2)/b)); wow ;) ok with a=1 b=2 c=3 d=4 I get -352, the computer gives me -88 haha use a long? ;) heh hehe that's funny... what kinda error would you get with floats? z: -88 :/ well (karma-(crystal@Mars.mcs.net) CLIENTINFO ops) to sig11 lemme see >>> (msg(karma-)) who the hell are you (Sammich(sig11@erl.lib.vt.edu) CLIENTINFO reply) OPS ops the person if on userlist >>> (ctcp(NeBulOuS_)) (CLIENTINFO OPS) (NeBulOuS_(hidden@sl6ww.dorms.usu.edu) CLIENTINFO reply) OPS ops the person if on userlist ? the src four eyes are better'n 2 just playing around with data types there :P 1 sec